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Kidney function on semaglutide — need advice

sean_dublin Thu, May 30, 2024 at 3:16 PM 37 replies 2,704 viewsPage 1 of 8
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sean_dublin
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May 30, 2024 at 3:16 PM#1

Started at 0.25mg with a fairly bad first week, held each step the full four weeks, and I am now at 1mg with no side effects worth naming.

The narrow version of the question is how much of the between-person variation is pharmacokinetic and how much is just adherence measured badly.

Numbers rather than impressions, if you have them.

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May 30, 2024 at 3:36 PM#2

This one has a reasonably settled answer, so here it is. The mechanism that matters here is not stomach emptying, it is central. GLP-1 receptor agonism in the arcuate nucleus stimulates POMC neurons and suppresses AgRP/NPY signalling, which is why the effect is appetite and food salience rather than physical fullness. Delayed gastric emptying largely tachyphylaxes over the first months; the appetite effect does not.

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May 30, 2024 at 3:56 PM#3
PharmacoVig_BOS said:
The mechanism that matters here is not stomach emptying, it is central.

Agreeing with PharmacoVig_BOS, and the qualification matters more than the agreement. Albumin binding above 99% is the whole reason weekly dosing works, and it is also why the trough matters more than the peak. People who dose late are not losing a peak, they are letting the trough fall, and the appetite effect tracks the trough.

Ask again with the specifics and you will get a better answer than this one.

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May 30, 2024 at 4:16 PM#4
sean_dublin said:
Started at 0.25mg with a fairly bad first week, held each step the full four weeks, and I am now at 1mg with no side effects worth naming.

That holds for the injectable. The oral formulation has different absorption behaviour and the dose numbers are not interchangeable, which is worth saying out loud because people quote them as if they were.

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May 30, 2024 at 6:03 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

sean_dublin said:
...but the FDA says semaglutide...

Interesting point. I want to add some regulatory nuance: the FDA labeling reflects the specific clinical trial data submitted for approval. Real-world clinical practice often extends beyond the FDA label based on emerging evidence and clinical judgment.

Example: semaglutide was first approved for diabetes (Ozempic), then obesity (Wegovy). The molecule didn't change — our understanding of its applications expanded. Similarly, semaglutide may evolve as more data accumulates.

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