🍪 CompoundTalk uses cookies to improve your experience, analyze traffic, and personalize content. By continuing to use this site, you agree to our Cookie Policy.
Evidence-based GLP-1 & peptide discussion since 2023
ForumsRetatrutide & Triple AgonistsRetatrutide and blood pressure — 6 month update

Retatrutide and blood pressure — 6 month update

SleepDoc_PDX Thu, May 16, 2024 at 3:24 PM 16 replies 2,169 viewsPage 1 of 4
This thread is more than 25 months old. Information may be outdated. Consider searching for more recent discussions.
SleepDoc_PDX
Member
289
1,234
Sep 2024
Portland, OR
May 16, 2024 at 3:24 PM#1

Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

Relative versus absolute is the distinction that gets lost: a 20% relative reduction on a high baseline risk is a large absolute benefit, and the same relative figure on a low baseline risk is a small one.

What I actually want to know is how much of the SELECT benefit is plausibly independent of the weight loss, and whether that distinction changes anything practical.

I would rather have one careful answer than five confident ones.

14 9pete_nash, hank_denver, carlos_SATX and 11 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
DanielChem_CHI
Senior Member
1,234
5,678
Mar 2024
Chicago, IL
May 16, 2024 at 5:00 PM#2

Answering the narrow version, because the broad one does not have a single answer. The glucagon component looks paradoxical and is not. Glucagon receptor agonism raises energy expenditure and drives hepatic fatty-acid oxidation, and its hyperglycaemic tendency is offset by the GLP-1 arm's insulin secretagogue effect. Net result: intake down from GLP-1/GIP, expenditure up from glucagon, glycaemia neutral or improved. It is a balancing act, and it is why the liver-fat results are the most interesting part of the dataset.

That is the short version; the long version is somebody else's post.

13 8Dr.DermMIA, fiona_VT, denise_HTX and 10 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
matt_MKE
Member
312
1,345
Sep 2024
Milwaukee, WI
May 16, 2024 at 6:36 PM#3
DanielChem_CHI said:
The glucagon component looks paradoxical and is not.

Fair, but phase 2 tolerability figures rarely survive contact with phase 3 scale. Triple agonism means three receptor systems generating adverse events, and the dropout column is the one I would read first when the larger trials report.

12 7GraceAZ_72, carl_compliance, DanielChem_CHI and 9 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report

Janoshik Analytical — Independent Testing

Trusted third-party HPLC & mass spectrometry analysis. Verify peptide purity with the lab the community relies on. Independent. Accurate. Transparent.

Verify Your Peptides

GL Biochem (Shanghai) Ltd. — Direct Manufacturer

Est. 1998. The synthesis house behind the vials you send for testing. ISO 9001 and cGMP certified, 1,500+ staff, batch-specific COA with every order.

Browse GL Biochem
nancy_portland
Member
345
1,567
Aug 2024
Portland, ME
May 16, 2024 at 8:12 PM#4
SleepDoc_PDX said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

This is my experience too, for whatever a second data point is worth. The detail I would add is minor and it is already implied above.

Last edited: May 16, 2024 at 9:12 PM
11 6Dr.PeteFamMed, claudia_zurich, nancy_portland and 8 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
newstart_MO
New Member
12
45
Feb 2026
Springfield, MO
May 17, 2024 at 5:37 AM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

The SELECT trial demonstrated a 20% reduction in MACE with semaglutide 2.4mg[1]. This is practice-changing because the CV benefit appears to be independent of the degree of weight loss — suggesting direct vascular and anti-inflammatory mechanisms.

For cardiovascular risk, this means we need to think beyond the primary outcome and consider the cardiovascular implications. The all-cause mortality reduction (HR 0.81) is the most clinically meaningful signal.

References:
[1] Lincoff AM, et al. N Engl J Med. 2023;389(24):2221-2232.
10 5RunnerRach, TrialNerd_Beth, HPLC_Greg and 7 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report

Similar Threads

TRIUMPH-3 topline results — 24.2% body weight loss at 48 weeks10 replies
Retatrutide mechanism: GLP-1/GIP/glucagon triple agonism explained5 replies
Retatrutide Phase 2 dose-response analysis — optimal dose range10 replies
Glucagon receptor agonism and hepatic lipid oxidation — MASH implications13 replies
Retatrutide vs tirzepatide — dual vs triple agonist comparison22 replies
ForumsNewTrendingMembersAccount

Log In

Forgot password?
No account? Register