🍪 CompoundTalk uses cookies to improve your experience, analyze traffic, and personalize content. By continuing to use this site, you agree to our Cookie Policy.
Evidence-based GLP-1 & peptide discussion since 2023
ForumsMASH / Liver DiseaseALT normalization rates on GLP-1 — pooled trial data Page 2

ALT normalization rates on GLP-1 — pooled trial data

BethLabQueen Mon, Jun 8, 2026 at 2:45 AM 20 replies 530 viewsPage 2 of 4
PeptideChemSF
Senior Member
1,890
9,012
Jan 2024
San Francisco, CA
Jun 8, 2026 at 3:27 AM#6

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. A quick sanity check on any figure quoted here: is it mean or median, is it intention-to-treat or completers, and what was the comparator. Three questions, and they resolve most disagreements in these threads.

8 3steve_okc, dave_SLC, FDA_TrackerJim and 5 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
ricardo_MIA
Member
378
1,678
Sep 2024
Miami, FL
Jun 8, 2026 at 3:44 AM#7

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

How to read a result like this without either dismissing it or over-reading it, since the summaries all read like press releases?

Last edited: Jun 8, 2026 at 8:44 AM
7 2ZaraB_AL, JakeSmashed95, NauseaFreeNow and 4 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
james_edin
Member
289
1,234
Sep 2024
Edinburgh, UK
Jun 8, 2026 at 4:00 AM#8
PeptideChemSF said:
A quick sanity check on any figure quoted here: is it mean or median, is it intention-to-treat or completers, and what was the comparator.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. Read four things before the headline number. The population, because trial populations are selected and supported in ways that real cohorts are not. The comparator, because "better than placebo" and "better than the current standard" are different claims and get reported identically. The primary endpoint as pre-registered, because a secondary endpoint promoted after the fact is a hypothesis rather than a finding. And the completion rate, because a large effect in the half of participants who finished is a different result from a large effect in everybody enrolled.

Last edited: Jun 8, 2026 at 6:00 AM
6 1tane_welly, Dr.PathRoch, mona_PHX and 3 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report

PeptideMeter — Independent Peptide Analytics

Community-driven peptide testing and vendor rating platform. Transparent results. Unbiased analysis. Trusted by thousands.

View Results
BethLabQueen
Senior Member
1,234
5,678
May 2024
Virginia
Online
Jun 8, 2026 at 4:16 AM#9

Reporting back.

Update — my curve sits below the published mean and the explanation is that the trial arm had support I do not have. That was reassuring rather than otherwise.

5 0cory_ATX, lori_vegas, Dr.PulmRoch and 2 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
B12Beth
Member
289
890
Oct 2024
Maryland
Jun 8, 2026 at 5:34 AM#10
james_edin said:
Read four things before the headline number.

ATTAIN trial (survodutide) context for liver and MASH: survodutide, a GLP-1/glucagon dual agonist, showed -18.7% body weight at 46 weeks in the Phase 3 ATTAIN trial. NASH resolution was achieved in ~60% of patients[1].

This is relevant to liver and MASH because survodutide's glucagon agonism specifically targets hepatic lipid metabolism — making it potentially the best-in-class agent for NASH/MAFLD comorbid with obesity.

References:
[1] Sanyal AJ, et al. N Engl J Med. 2024.
Last edited: Jun 8, 2026 at 8:34 AM
47 20pam_columbus, nick_SD_fit, ben_calgary and 44 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report

Similar Threads

Survodutide MASH Phase 2b — histological improvement data9 replies
Semaglutide and MASH — liver fat reduction quantification13 replies
Non-invasive MASH biomarkers — FibroScan, ELF, FIB-4 on GLP-110 replies
GLP-1 hepatoprotection — direct vs indirect mechanisms16 replies
MASH resolution without worsening fibrosis — endpoint analysis11 replies
ForumsNewTrendingMembersAccount

Log In

Forgot password?
No account? Register