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5-Amino-1MQ — anyone have experience?

Dr.GastroMayo Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 2:37 PM 35 replies 1,808 viewsPage 1 of 7
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Dr.GastroMayo
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Jun 4, 2025 at 2:37 PM#1

Reading about receptor desensitisation and trying to work out which of the effects adapt over time and which do not, because people clearly experience both.

Numbers worth memorising for this class: Tmax one to three days for the weekly peptides, terminal half-life about a week for semaglutide and about five days for tirzepatide, steady state at four to five half-lives, subcutaneous bioavailability high enough that site choice is irrelevant.

The bit I cannot resolve on my own is which effects tachyphylax and which persist, because the answer explains why tolerability improves while the appetite effect keeps working.

If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

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Jun 4, 2025 at 3:28 PM#2
Dr.GastroMayo said:
Reading about receptor desensitisation and trying to work out which of the effects adapt over time and which do not, because people clearly experience…

Pharmacist here. I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

Key points from a pharmacokinetic standpoint:

  • GLP-1 agonists delay gastric emptying, which can affect Tmax of co-administered oral medications
  • Monitor patients on warfarin (INR), levothyroxine (TSH), and oral contraceptives during dose titration
  • The albumin-binding mechanism of semaglutide (C-18 fatty acid linker) gives it the ~168-hour half-life that enables weekly dosing
  • Steady state is reached at approximately 4-5 weeks after dose initiation or adjustment

Re: the pharmacology specifically — the pharmacology here is well-characterized and the clinical implications are straightforward.

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Jun 4, 2025 at 4:19 PM#3
TrialTracker_MD said:
I want to add the drug interaction perspective on the pharmacology.

TrialTracker_MD has the substance of this right. The condition it depends on is worth stating. The mechanism is more central than most summaries suggest. Receptor agonism in the arcuate nucleus activates POMC neurons and inhibits AgRP/NPY signalling, and the downstream MC4R pathway is the same one disrupted in monogenic obesity — convergent genetic evidence that the target is the right one. Peripherally there is glucose-dependent insulin secretion, glucagon suppression and delayed gastric emptying, but the gastric component largely adapts over months while the central effect persists, which is why the durable effect is appetite rather than fullness.

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Jun 4, 2025 at 5:10 PM#4
Dr.GastroMayo said:
Reading about receptor desensitisation and trying to work out which of the effects adapt over time and which do not, because people clearly experience…

This is my experience too, for whatever a second data point is worth. The detail I would add is minor and it is already implied above.

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Jun 4, 2025 at 9:57 PM#5

Clinical perspective, offered as context rather than as advice.

Amycretin (AMY/GLP-1 dual agonist) emerging data relevant to the pharmacology: Phase 1 showed -13.1% body weight at only 12 weeks, the fastest trajectory ever seen for an anti-obesity agent[1].

Amylin receptor agonism enhances satiety signaling through the area postrema and reduces glucagon secretion. Combined with GLP-1R agonism, this dual mechanism may produce even greater efficacy than current agents.

Early-stage data — interpret with caution. But the trajectory is extraordinary.

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[1] Novo Nordisk investor presentation, September 2023.
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