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STEP 1-5 trials comprehensive summary — my results so far

ben_calgary Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 10:35 AM 40 replies 2,086 viewsPage 2 of 8
jason_paloalto
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Apr 17, 2025 at 6:56 PM#6

One concrete data point for the thread. Worth knowing that the injection site changes very little. Abdomen, thigh and upper arm are bioequivalent for semaglutide, so a site change is not a plausible explanation for a bad week.

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Apr 18, 2025 at 7:52 AM#7

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

What the dose-response curve actually looks like above 1.7mg, because the trial means hide how few people account for the extra loss?

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Apr 18, 2025 at 8:48 PM#8
jason_paloalto said:
Worth knowing that the injection site changes very little.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. The dose-response is real but shallow at the top. Across STEP 1 and STEP 4 the gap between 1.7mg and 2.4mg is a couple of percentage points of body weight on average, and the average is carrying a wide spread — plenty of people at 1.7mg sit above the 2.4mg mean. If a dose is working and tolerable, "working" is the relevant variable, not "maximal".

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Apr 19, 2025 at 9:44 AM#9

Reporting back.

Six weeks on from posting: I stopped reading the weekly number and started reading a four-week average, and the "stall" I opened this thread about was a 1.8kg loss I could not see.

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Apr 21, 2025 at 11:52 PM#10
Dr.EndoIndy said:
The dose-response is real but shallow at the top.

No disagreement with Dr.EndoIndy. One condition attached. Steady state is the thing most people miss. The terminal half-life is about a week, so every dose step takes four to five weeks to fully express itself. Judging a step at day ten is judging the ascent, not the plateau, and it is the single commonest reason people escalate before they needed to.

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