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Semaglutide cardiovascular benefit: SELECT trial deep dive — looking for input

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PedsEndoPhilly
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Dec 26, 2024 at 1:37 AM#21

Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.

Dr.DermMIA said:
...cardiovascular risk is just another fad...

I understand the skepticism — we've all seen "miracle" weight loss solutions come and go. But consider what makes GLP-1 agonists different:

  • Phase 3 RCTs with thousands of participants (not 20-person pilot studies)
  • Published in NEJM, JAMA, Lancet (not press releases)
  • Replicated across multiple independent research groups
  • Proven cardiovascular and renal benefits beyond weight loss
  • Biological mechanism fully characterized at the receptor level

This isn't a fad — it's a new drug class supported by the highest level of clinical evidence. The comparison to past fads is understandable but inappropriate.

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Dec 27, 2024 at 9:38 AM#22
PedsEndoPhilly said:
Dr.DermMIA said: ...cardiovascular risk is just another fad...

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so out loud. Nothing to add that would improve it.

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Dec 28, 2024 at 5:38 PM#23
PedsEndoPhilly said:
Dr.DermMIA said: ...cardiovascular risk is just another fad...

Vitamin deficiency cascade with cardiovascular risk: after 6+ months of reduced food intake, I developed a subtle but important pattern: low B12 → elevated homocysteine → increased cardiovascular risk marker.

The connection: B12 is a cofactor for homocysteine metabolism. Without adequate B12, homocysteine accumulates. This is ironic — taking a CV-protective medication while developing a CV risk factor from reduced nutrition.

Solution: comprehensive vitamin supplementation and regular lab monitoring. Don't let the medication's benefits be undermined by nutritional deficiencies.

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Dec 30, 2024 at 1:38 AM#24

One concrete data point for the thread. Worth knowing that the injection site changes very little. Abdomen, thigh and upper arm are bioequivalent for semaglutide, so a site change is not a plausible explanation for a bad week.

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Dec 31, 2024 at 9:37 AM#25

Following on from PedsEndoPhilly — and this may be the naive question:

Whether anyone has held at a sub-maximal dose long term and kept the result, or whether the maintenance data only exists at 2.4mg?

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