SleepDoc_PDX said:Extending the interval and reducing the dose are pharmacologically different.
Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework. Printing the relevant bit and taking it with me.
SleepDoc_PDX said:Extending the interval and reducing the dose are pharmacologically different.
Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework. Printing the relevant bit and taking it with me.
Adding the clinical framing, because it changes how the question reads.
DerekSJ_a1c said:...I stopped maintenance dosing and regained all the weight...
This is a really important data point and I appreciate your honesty. The STEP 1 extension data showed ~2/3 of weight regain within 12 months of discontinuation.
This doesn't mean the drug "doesn't work" — it means obesity is a chronic disease requiring ongoing treatment, just like hypertension or diabetes. We don't criticize blood pressure meds for "not working" when BP rises after stopping them.
The framing matters. maintenance dosing is a treatment, not a cure. And that's okay.
NurseAsh_DET said:There is also a quality change that the scan cannot see.
Filing a mild objection. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit. I think this board over-worries about lean mass. Some lean loss is obligatory — you need less muscle to move a smaller body, and preserving mass you no longer need is not a health outcome. The question is whether strength and function held, and mine did.
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Browse GL BiochemDerekSJ_a1c said:STEP 4 is the study that answers this and it is blunt.
DerekSJ_a1c said:...the STEP extension data on maintenance dosing is concerning...
Let me offer a different interpretation of the same data. Yes, 2/3 of weight was regained after discontinuation. But consider:
The takeaway isn't "the drug fails when you stop" — it's "chronic diseases require ongoing treatment." We've always known this.
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