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Semaglutide and MASH — 6 month update

Dr.ReproEndo Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 1:09 PM 11 replies 2,208 viewsPage 2 of 3
NeuroNate
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Feb 22, 2024 at 8:07 PM#6
Dr.PainCLE said:
The dose-response is real but shallow at the top.

I read this differently from Dr.PainCLE, on substance rather than tone. The trial means are being read too generously in this thread. STEP populations were selected, supported, and titrated by protocol, and the real-world curves are consistently a few points worse. That difference is not noise, it is what happens when you remove the study infrastructure.

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Feb 22, 2024 at 10:51 PM#7

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. Worth knowing that the injection site changes very little. Abdomen, thigh and upper arm are bioequivalent for semaglutide, so a site change is not a plausible explanation for a bad week.

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Feb 23, 2024 at 1:35 AM#8
NeuroNate said:
The trial means are being read too generously in this thread.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. The liver data is among the strongest non-weight findings in the class. The semaglutide MASH programme reported a large advantage over placebo on MASH resolution, with a substantial minority also achieving fibrosis improvement — and fibrosis is the endpoint that predicts outcomes. Mechanistically it is reduced hepatic lipogenesis, increased fatty-acid oxidation, less hepatic inflammation, and possibly a direct effect on stellate-cell activation.

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Feb 23, 2024 at 4:19 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Whether normalised enzymes tell you anything about fibrosis, and what the right follow-up measurement is?

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Dr.ReproEndo
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Feb 23, 2024 at 5:28 PM#10

Closing the loop on my own question.

Six weeks on from posting: I stopped reading the weekly number and started reading a four-week average, and the "stall" I opened this thread about was a 1.8kg loss I could not see.

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