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Particulate matter testing — 6 month update

BrianDallas92 Sat, Sep 27, 2025 at 1:53 AM 10 replies 1,196 viewsPage 2 of 2
Dr.RenalNash
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Sep 27, 2025 at 4:20 AM#6
Dr.PeteFamMed said:
They are not contradictory, they measure different things, and this is the single most common misreading of a certificate.

I am more sceptical of certificates as a category than this thread is. The document tells you about a sample somebody chose to send, at a moment in time, and nothing about the vial in your hand. Independent purchase-and-test is a different quality of evidence and everything else is inference.

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Sep 27, 2025 at 5:17 AM#7
BrianDallas92 said:
Two reports on the same product from two laboratories, four percentage points apart, and no method stated on either.

Third-party testing services for certificates of analysis besides Janoshik:

  • Janoshik: Gold standard for peptide community, ~$152, 10-14 day turnaround
  • Valitech: US-based, ISO 17025 accredited, ~$222
  • Eurofins: Full pharmaceutical testing suite, more expensive but comprehensive
  • ChemTox: Basic identity and purity testing, ~$122

Janoshik is the community standard but any ISO-accredited analytical lab can verify peptide identity and purity. The key is independence — don't rely solely on the vendor's own testing.

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Sep 27, 2025 at 6:14 AM#8
Dr.RenalNash said:
I am more sceptical of certificates as a category than this thread is.

COA red flags for certificates of analysis — here's what to look for when reviewing a Certificate of Analysis:

  • No HPLC data: If there's no chromatography graph, it's not a real COA
  • Exact 100% purity: Suspicious — real testing always shows slight variation
  • No batch number: Can't trace back to specific production
  • No endotoxin testing: For injectables, this is essential
  • Template looks like it was made in Word: Professional labs have standardized formats

I have seen fake COAs that are literally photoshopped. Always verify independently if possible.

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Sep 27, 2025 at 7:11 AM#9

Following on from roxy_nash — and this may be the naive question:

Whether a purity figure and a content figure can disagree without one of them being wrong?

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Sep 27, 2025 at 11:46 AM#10

Reporting back.

Purity and content being different measurements was the piece I was missing. The vial was overfilled and pure, which is a very different problem from the one I thought I had.

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