🍪 CompoundTalk uses cookies to improve your experience, analyze traffic, and personalize content. By continuing to use this site, you agree to our Cookie Policy.
Evidence-based GLP-1 & peptide discussion since 2023
ForumsCOA & Analytical TestingParticulate matter testing — 6 month update

Particulate matter testing — 6 month update

BrianDallas92 Sat, Sep 27, 2025 at 1:53 AM 10 replies 1,196 viewsPage 1 of 2
This thread is more than 8 months old. Information may be outdated. Consider searching for more recent discussions.
BrianDallas92
Member
312
1,456
Oct 2024
Dallas, TX
Sep 27, 2025 at 1:53 AM#1

Two reports on the same product from two laboratories, four percentage points apart, and no method stated on either.

The four things to check on any report, in order: does it name your batch, who commissioned it, what method was used, and does it report content as well as purity. A report failing any of those is weak evidence regardless of the percentage on it.

The bit I cannot resolve on my own is why two laboratories report different purity for the same batch, and which number to believe.

If the honest answer is that nobody knows, that is a useful answer and I would rather have it.

44 14Dr.PathRoch, mona_PHX, andrew_nyc and 41 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
Dr.PeteFamMed
Senior Member
2,012
9,234
Jan 2024
Minneapolis, MN
Sep 27, 2025 at 2:04 AM#2

Short answer first, then the reasoning. They are not contradictory, they measure different things, and this is the single most common misreading of a certificate. Purity is a relative area measurement: the main peak as a percentage of total peak area in the chromatogram. Content is an absolute mass measurement against a reference standard. A vial can be 99% pure and contain 6.1mg — pure material, overfilled — or 99% pure and contain 3mg, which is pure material and a short fill. Purity tells you what fraction of what is there is the right molecule; content tells you how much of it there is. You need both, and a certificate with only purity is telling you half the story.

43 13tommy_boulder, hyun_seoul, jim_asheville and 40 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
roxy_nash
Member
178
890
Dec 2024
Nashville, TN
Sep 27, 2025 at 2:15 AM#3
Dr.PeteFamMed said:
They are not contradictory, they measure different things, and this is the single most common misreading of a certificate.

No disagreement with Dr.PeteFamMed. One condition attached. One addition: an unstated method makes a report close to uninterpretable. "99% pure" without the technique, the standard and the conditions is a claim, not a measurement.

42 12tony_orlando, Dr.NephBHM_UK, kim_atl_prep and 39 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report

Sigma-Aldrich — Research-Grade Standards

Certified reference materials, analytical reagents, and research-grade standards for peptide verification. Trusted by laboratories worldwide.

Shop Reference Standards
mia_MS2
New Member
8
23
Jun 2026
Ann Arbor, MI
Sep 27, 2025 at 2:26 AM#4
BrianDallas92 said:
Two reports on the same product from two laboratories, four percentage points apart, and no method stated on either.

This matches mine closely enough to be worth saying so. The provenance questions are more useful than the numbers. Does the report name the batch on your vial. Is the date consistent with when that batch existed. Is it addressed to the vendor or to the person who paid for the test. Was the sample taken from general stock or supplied by the vendor. A perfect certificate for a different batch is worth nothing, and vendor-supplied samples are the most common way a genuine report ends up misleading.

41 11steve_okc, dave_SLC, FDA_TrackerJim and 38 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report
CarlaRPh_TPA
Senior Member
1,890
8,234
Jan 2024
Tampa, FL
Sep 27, 2025 at 3:23 AM#5

From the other side of the consultation, briefly.

HPLC results interpretation for certificates of analysis: when you get your Janoshik report back, here's what the numbers mean:

  • Purity %: Should be >97%. Below 95% is concerning.
  • Retention time: Should match reference standard for the peptide
  • Related substances: Degradation products should be <2% total
  • Single impurity: No individual impurity should exceed 1%

My last batch: 99.6% purity, 0.2% total related substances. Clean chromatogram with single sharp peak at expected retention time. Exactly what you want to see.

Last edited: Sep 27, 2025 at 7:23 AM
40 10emily_PDX, Dr.SleepRoch, laura_annarbor and 37 others
Reply Quote Save Share Report

Similar Threads

HPLC vs UPLC for peptide purity — method comparison study18 replies
Mass spectrometry for peptide identity verification — ESI-MS guide7 replies
Endotoxin testing methods — LAL vs recombinant Factor C17 replies
Red flags on COAs — how to spot a fake certificate5 replies
USP reference standards for peptide verification — sourcing guide3 replies
ForumsNewTrendingMembersAccount

Log In

Forgot password?
No account? Register