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My vendor COA looks sketchy - can someone take a look — anyone have experience?

BethLabQueen Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:37 AM 12 replies 2,137 viewsPage 2 of 3
Dr.RaviCardio
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Feb 23, 2024 at 5:42 AM#6
TirzTom said:
Prices dramatically below market are the strongest single signal, and the reason is arithmetic rather than suspicion.

I disagree that testing history is decisive. It tells you what a supplier did when they were being watched. Continuity of behaviour under stress — a late shipment, a failed test, a complaint — is more predictive than any run of good results.

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Feb 23, 2024 at 2:30 PM#7

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. The four things to check on any report, in order: does it name your batch, who commissioned it, what method was used, and does it report content as well as purity. A report failing any of those is weak evidence regardless of the percentage on it.

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Feb 23, 2024 at 11:18 PM#8
Dr.RaviCardio said:
I disagree that testing history is decisive.

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. They are not contradictory, they measure different things, and this is the single most common misreading of a certificate. Purity is a relative area measurement: the main peak as a percentage of total peak area in the chromatogram. Content is an absolute mass measurement against a reference standard. A vial can be 99% pure and contain 6.1mg — pure material, overfilled — or 99% pure and contain 3mg, which is pure material and a short fill. Purity tells you what fraction of what is there is the right molecule; content tells you how much of it there is. You need both, and a certificate with only purity is telling you half the story.

Worth separating that from certificates of analysis, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.

Ask again with the specifics and you will get a better answer than this one.

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Feb 24, 2024 at 8:06 AM#9

Following on from Dr.NateNeph — and this may be the naive question:

What a vetting checklist should actually contain, as opposed to a list of things that are easy to fake?

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Feb 26, 2024 at 2:22 AM#10

Reporting back.

Went back through my own correspondence with an earlier supplier and the warning signs were all there in the replies, weeks before the quality changed. I was reading the product and not the behaviour.

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