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Semaglutide cardiovascular benefit independent of weight loss — 6 month update

SurmountFan_IN Sat, Jun 14, 2025 at 8:13 AM 15 replies 1,581 viewsPage 2 of 3
BethLabQueen
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Jun 14, 2025 at 12:36 PM#6
PurityPaulOR said:
Albumin binding above 99% is the whole reason weekly dosing works, and it is also why the trough matters more than the peak.

I read this differently from PurityPaulOR, on substance rather than tone. The "earlier than weight loss explains" argument is weaker than this thread makes it sound. Blood pressure and inflammatory markers move fast and are downstream of early weight loss, so the mechanism is not as cleanly separable as the summaries imply.

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Jun 14, 2025 at 2:19 PM#7

One concrete data point for the thread. Worth knowing that the injection site changes very little. Abdomen, thigh and upper arm are bioequivalent for semaglutide, so a site change is not a plausible explanation for a bad week.

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Jun 14, 2025 at 4:02 PM#8
BethLabQueen said:
The "earlier than weight loss explains" argument is weaker than this thread makes it sound.

There is a second half to this that has not been said yet. Steady state is the thing most people miss. The terminal half-life is about a week, so every dose step takes four to five weeks to fully express itself. Judging a step at day ten is judging the ascent, not the plateau, and it is the single commonest reason people escalate before they needed to.

Worth separating that from semaglutide, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.

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Jun 14, 2025 at 5:45 PM#9

One thing that is still open after sean_dublin’s answer:

What the dose-response curve actually looks like above 1.7mg, because the trial means hide how few people account for the extra loss?

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Jun 15, 2025 at 2:00 AM#10

OP back with an update, since a thread like this is useless without one.

Following this thread I went back and re-read the extension data properly. The point about trough rather than peak explains the pattern I was seeing on day six, which I had been blaming on the vial.

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