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Tirzepatide cardiovascular safety — looking for input

nancy_portland Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 3:19 PM 36 replies 2,184 viewsPage 6 of 8
quinn_sf
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Jan 28, 2025 at 5:35 PM#26
Dr.ObesityMed said:
I want to bring up the cardiovascular angle on cardiovascular risk.

Metabolic syndrome resolution on cardiovascular risk: I went from meeting 4 of 5 diagnostic criteria to meeting ZERO after 9 months of treatment.

The 5 criteria (and my journey):

  1. Waist circumference: 48" → 34" ✅ Resolved
  2. Triglycerides: 220 → 105 ✅ Resolved
  3. HDL: 32 → 52 ✅ Resolved
  4. Blood pressure: 140/94 → 118/72 ✅ Resolved
  5. Fasting glucose: 115 → 84 ✅ Resolved

Metabolic syndrome reversal is, in my view, the most medically significant outcome of GLP-1 therapy.

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Jan 29, 2025 at 12:36 AM#27

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

Did your prescriber agree with that reading, and if not what was their objection?

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JessicaH_TX
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Jan 29, 2025 at 7:37 AM#28
quinn_sf said:
Metabolic syndrome resolution on cardiovascular risk: I went from meeting 4 of 5 diagnostic criteria to meeting ZERO after 9 months of treatment.

SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk. In 3,297 T2DM patients with high CV risk: MACE HR 0.74 (95% CI 0.58-0.95, p=0.02)[1].

Notable: the retinopathy signal in SUSTAIN-6 (HR 1.76) was subsequently attributed to rapid A1C reduction in patients with pre-existing retinopathy — not a direct drug effect. This has been confirmed in longer-term follow-up studies.

References:
[1] Marso SP, et al. N Engl J Med. 2016;375(19):1834-1844.
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Jan 29, 2025 at 2:38 PM#29
quinn_sf said:
Metabolic syndrome resolution on cardiovascular risk: I went from meeting 4 of 5 diagnostic criteria to meeting ZERO after 9 months of treatment.

Positive "side effect" of cardiovascular risk: my blood pressure dropped so much that I'm now off lisinopril entirely! My cardiologist is thrilled.

If you're on BP meds and losing weight on a GLP-1, monitor your BP at home regularly. Hypotension symptoms (dizziness, lightheadedness when standing) mean your BP meds may need reduction. Don't wait for your next scheduled appointment — call your doctor.

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Jan 29, 2025 at 9:40 PM#30
JessicaH_TX said:
SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk.

NNT calculation for cardiovascular risk clinical endpoints: NNT = 1/ARR (absolute risk reduction).

From SELECT trial: MACE at 39 months — 6.5% semaglutide vs 8.0% placebo. ARR = 1.5%. NNT = 67 over 3.3 years.

Compare to established therapies:

InterventionNNTTimeframe
Semaglutide (MACE)673.3 years
Statins primary prevention (MI)~1005 years
Aspirin secondary prevention~772 years

These NNTs are clinically meaningful and comparable to accepted cardiovascular interventions.

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