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Should I be worried about my heart rate going up? — anyone have experience?

fiona_VT Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 3:46 AM 12 replies 1,852 viewsPage 2 of 3
Dr.CardioMD
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Nov 12, 2024 at 7:09 AM#6
COA_Karl said:
CRP reduction on cardiovascular risk — this is the lab result that excites me most: Baseline hsCRP: 7.0 mg/L (high cardiovascular risk) Month 6 hsCRP:…

I read this differently from COA_Karl, on substance rather than tone. The "earlier than weight loss explains" argument is weaker than this thread makes it sound. Blood pressure and inflammatory markers move fast and are downstream of early weight loss, so the mechanism is not as cleanly separable as the summaries imply.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 8:28 AM#7
fiona_VT said:
Prescribed on cardiovascular grounds rather than for weight, and almost everything written for patients assumes the opposite.

6 month update on cardiovascular risk: down 47 lbs, off blood pressure meds, A1C normalized. Genuinely life-changing.

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Nov 12, 2024 at 9:47 AM#8
Dr.CardioMD said:
The "earlier than weight loss explains" argument is weaker than this thread makes it sound.

SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk. In 3,297 T2DM patients with high CV risk: MACE HR 0.74 (95% CI 0.58-0.95, p=0.02)[1].

Notable: the retinopathy signal in SUSTAIN-6 (HR 1.76) was subsequently attributed to rapid A1C reduction in patients with pre-existing retinopathy — not a direct drug effect. This has been confirmed in longer-term follow-up studies.

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[1] Marso SP, et al. N Engl J Med. 2016;375(19):1834-1844.
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Nov 12, 2024 at 11:06 AM#9

A narrower follow-up, since the general answer is now clear:

What did you change at the same time, and can you separate the two now?

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Nov 12, 2024 at 5:25 PM#10
Dr.NutriCornell said:
SUSTAIN-6 was the first CVOT to show cardiovascular benefit with semaglutide, relevant to cardiovascular risk.

Lp(a) and cardiovascular risk: a nuance that matters. Unlike most lipid markers, Lp(a) is 90%+ genetically determined and doesn't really change with weight loss or GLP-1 therapy.

My Lp(a) has remained at 74 nmol/L across all time points. If yours is elevated (>50 nmol/L), you need additional risk mitigation strategies regardless of your GLP-1 response. Don't assume your medication is covering all cardiovascular risk factors.

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