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Liver biopsy changes on semaglutide — looking for input

Dr.GutHealth Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 8:18 AM 29 replies 2,184 viewsPage 4 of 6
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Oct 26, 2024 at 7:08 AM#16
Dr.BariatricHTX said:
Dr.GutHealth said: ...but the FDA says semaglutide...

Agreed, and ALT falling is not the same as fibrosis improving. Enzymes are a crude proxy; FIB-4 or elastography is what tells you about the thing that matters.

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Oct 26, 2024 at 9:57 PM#17
KarenAZ_mom said:
Agreed, and ALT falling is not the same as fibrosis improving.

This is my experience too, for whatever a second data point is worth.

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Oct 27, 2024 at 12:47 PM#18
KarenAZ_mom said:
Agreed, and ALT falling is not the same as fibrosis improving.

Adding the part of the answer the thread has not reached. The liver data is among the strongest non-weight findings in the class. The semaglutide MASH programme reported a large advantage over placebo on MASH resolution, with a substantial minority also achieving fibrosis improvement — and fibrosis is the endpoint that predicts outcomes. Mechanistically it is reduced hepatic lipogenesis, increased fatty-acid oxidation, less hepatic inflammation, and possibly a direct effect on stellate-cell activation.

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Oct 28, 2024 at 3:37 AM#19

The figures, for anyone assembling their own picture. For anyone reading later: the numbers in this thread are worth checking against a primary source before you act on them, including mine. Half the figures circulating in this community trace back to a secondary summary that dropped a qualifier.

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Moderator note: a couple of off-topic posts removed.

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