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Has anyone dealt with rybelsus real-world vs clinical trial efficacy?

NeuroNate Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 12:13 AM 31 replies 2,377 viewsPage 3 of 7
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Oct 20, 2024 at 4:51 PM#11
Dr.ObesityMed said:
The OASIS programme put 50mg oral in the same territory as 2.4mg injectable — around 15% mean weight loss — but it needed a dose 20 times larger to…

Genuinely useful, thank you. I had the facts and not the framework.

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Dr.NateNeph
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Oct 20, 2024 at 9:38 PM#12

From the other side of the consultation, briefly. Most of what circulates confidently in this community traces back to one summary of one study, and the qualifier was dropped somewhere in the third retelling.

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Oct 21, 2024 at 2:25 AM#13
rachel_ABQ said:
The gap between trial results and real-world results is consistent and it is not fraud.

Pushing back on rachel_ABQ here. I would add the less popular caveat: these trial populations under-represented several groups, older adults and the highest BMI categories among them. The results probably generalise, and "probably" should be stated as an assumption rather than dropped.

Worth separating that from the trial evidence, which this thread keeps folding into the same question. They behave differently and the advice does not transfer.

Correct me if the detail matters more than I have assumed.

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Oct 21, 2024 at 7:12 AM#14

One concrete data point for the thread. For anyone reading later: the numbers in this thread are worth checking against a primary source before you act on them, including mine. Half the figures circulating in this community trace back to a secondary summary that dropped a qualifier.

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Oct 21, 2024 at 11:59 AM#15

Moderator note: the sourcing question belongs in the vendor section and has been split out. No action needed from anybody.

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